Great Poker Rivalries: Daniel Negreanu vs. Annie Duke

There are countless close friendships that have been forged over the poker table but nothing interests people more than a good old-fashioned feud.

There’s a reason that Phil Hellmuth berating Shawn Sheikhan and Tony G telling Ralph Perry to get on his bike are two of the most popular poker clips on the Internet. 

With that in mind there is one poker rivalry that has spanned over a decade and gotten downright nasty at certain points.

We’re talking about the seemingly never-ending spat between Daniel Negreanu and Annie Duke.

There are very few ongoing conflicts between poker players that have gotten as malicious and continued as long as the one between Kid Poker and the former Celebrity Apprentice contestant.

Although the feud has calmed down over the years, it seems very unlikely that either player will be sending Christmas cards to the other.

Here are some of the highlights, or maybe lowlights, from the decade-long battle between Negreanu and Duke.

1990s: First Contact

Back in the late ‘90s Daniel Negreanu was making his first trips to Las Vegas in an effort to make it as a professional poker player.

Over that time Negreanu was an active member of the rec.gambling.poker community, which included famous members such as Chris “Jesus” Ferguson and Howard Lederer.

In 1999 Negreanu made a post that listed the 10 best Limit players in the world based on his experience in the $500/$1,000 game at Bellagio.

It was arguably the toughest game in the world at that point and Negreanu listed Annie Duke as the sixth-best player in the game and was extremely complimentary of her game at the time.

Sept. 9-18, 2002: Shots Are Fired

Negreanu starts making vague accusations on rec.gambling.poker about an “expert” that acts like a bully in the Bellagio game.

At first the comments are about an anonymous person but Negreanu later starts adding “she” into the thread.

Howard Lederer, a member of the community and brother to Annie Duke, realizes who Negreanu is referring to.

Howard Lederer  

September 27, 2002: Big Brother Steps in

Later in the month Lederer posted an open letter to Negreanu accusing him of waging a public smear campaign against Duke

Lederer focused on the following issues:

Lederer finished the letter by saying he never wants anything to do with the Canadian pro unless he’s trying to bust him at the poker table.

Daniel Negreanu  

Sept. 28, 2002: You Wouldn’t Like Kid Poker When He’s Angry

The next day Negreanu posted a response, and it’s safe to say he wasn’t very happy when he wrote it.

Negreanu got downright nasty as he said that Duke went out of her way to ridicule him from the moment he met her when he was 22 years old at the 4 Queens.

According to Negreanu, Duke referred to him as “cupboy” thanks to his habit of always having a Styrofoam water cup at the table and frequently criticized his play.

Negreanu called Duke a “horrible person” and maintained there were numerous players that felt the same way.

The post hit a low when Negreanu accused Duke of always wearing the same dirty clothes with no shoes in the casino.

At one point he even said that no one wanted to sit in $2,000 chair that has “urinated foot sweat soaked into it.”

He also said that she had been causing harm to many players for years and it was time someone said something about it.

Feb. 19, 2003: “Annie Duke is a low life.”

A few months later Negreanu would yet again post on RGP about the various reasons he thinks Annie Duke is a low life.

He separated the post into seven points:

Negreanu finished the post by saying that a couple years later he had started to win tournaments and all of a sudden she was nice to him.

Finally he apologized to his friends who are also friends with Duke for the awkward position he has put them in.

2003-2005: The Professor and Kid Poker Make Up

It’s not exactly clear when it happened but apparently Lederer and Negreanu patched things up enough they can tolerate each other at numerous poker tables around the world.

Negreanu still seems to have some strong feelings about Duke, however.

Annie Duke  

Jan. 15, 2005: Well, this is Embarassing

The aforementioned rec.gambling posts began to circulate on the TwoPlusTwo poker forum and Negreanu posts a blog that says the posts were “nasty” and he was “embarrassed” by them.

Negreanu goes on to say that he always speaks his mind but it’s not his place to judge others.

He doesn’t go so far as to say he actually regretted making the posts but did say that they embarrassed him.

Sept 8, 2005: You Can Read About it in My Book

The autobiography is released and a small portion speaks about Negreanu.

She refers to him as her “online tormenter.”

Throughout their entire feud Duke rarely publically acknowledged Negreanu’s strong words for her.

Daniel Negreanu  

July, 2010: Hello Neighbor!

Negreanu and Duke are seated right next to each other in the Tournament of Champions at the WSOP.

Despite the proximity and media attention, nothing of consequence happens. A couple weeks later however…

August, 2010: Did You Just Use the “C” Word?

In an interview with PokerPlayer.co.uk Negreanu allegedly called Duke a c@#$ for belittling the Ladies Event.

Duke would later say she was shocked by the language and wrote an open letter to Negreanu’s online sponsor, PokerStars, demanding a reprimand.

PokerStars responded by saying they don’t support the use of derogatory or hurtful language ever.

Eventually Negreanu would say that he thought he was speaking off the record to the writer of the article and apologized to all women who were offended.

He never apologized directly to Duke, however.

March, 2011: I Don’t Care for UB, Never Have

Throughout the late 2000s Negreanu is also very outspoken in his contempt for UB Poker, a site where Duke was heavily involved as a member of Team UB and as the UB Cardroom Consultant.

UB was tarnished when a super-user was found to have cheated players out of hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Duke finally left the site in early 2011.

The Epic Poker League  

Aug. 11, 2011: Your New Tour Sucks 

Negreanu writes a blog post titled “Why I Don’t Play the EPL” that blasts Duke’s newest venture – the Epic Poker League.

Negreanu mentions he doesn’t think the tour will be a success without a legitimate source of revenue.

Outside of online poker being legalized in the U.S. and the Epic Poker League starting a poker site, Negreanu says he can’t see a way for the tour to be profitable.

He also mentions the lack of big name old-school players like Phil Ivey, Chris Moneymaker, Scotty Nguyen and Doyle Brunson that will seriously hurt any chance the tour has to succeed.

Duke is the commissioner of the league and has yet to respond to any of Negreanu’s recent criticism, although she has mentioned on numerous occasions that the league has some very wealthy and committed investors.

The Future?

This is just a brief history of the war of words between the two well known poker pros.

If you really want to get into the nitty gritty of the mud-slinging then you should check out this thread on TwoPlusTwo, which also has the majority of the old RGP posts.


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Euromillions Results for Tuesday 27th September 2011

With an impressive £30,913,743/€35,496,317 in the pot for the Euromillions draw tonight it’s no wonder that excitement has been building for this double rollover but did the right numbers get drawn to make you a multi-millionaire. The Euromillions results for Tuesday 27th September 2011 revealed no jackpot winners meaning the lottery operators have just one more draw before the Euromillions Superdraw on 4th October – if the Euromillions results on Friday fails to find a jackpot winner we’ll be nearing the guaranteed jackpot!

Latest EuroMillions Results for 27 September 2011

Whilst the jackpot remained elusive and means a Euromillions triple rollover for Friday’s draw one lucky winner from the UK took the match five and two Lucky Stars prize of an impressive £855,670/€1,207,291. With the estimated jackpot for Friday at £41/€48 million if the jackpot rolls again Friday, it would mean that the operators wouldn’t have to bump up the kitty too much to reach the guaranteed jackpot of £85/€100 million.

A few interesting statistics about tonight’s Euromillions numbers – firstly the Lucky Stars 3 and 5 are actually both the most commonly drawn with 102 appearances for the number three and 99 for the number five as Lucky Stars. This Lucky Star pair are also the fifth most common star pairs to come out in Euromillions draws!

Two of the main numbers that made an appearance, 27 and 28, are two of the least often picked numbers with just 33 appearances for both numbers since the first Euromillions draw.

Are we going to see the fourth consecutive rollover on Friday or will it be your name on the winners cheque?

 

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Full Tilt Poker Still in Doldrums

Before the April Black Friday indictments, Full Tilt Poker and PokerStars were by far the leading online poker rooms globally. They were drawing fantastic traffic, they had the best poker professionals on board and they had just tied up with leading land casinos. What happened after the Department of Justice indictments was completely different for PokerStars and Full Tilt Poker.

PokerStars has paid back its American players, is operating the online poker room outside the United States and is all set to kick off its annual WCOOP event. Full Tilt Poker does not have the funds to pay back its American players and is unable to operate anywhere in the world. It is still struggling to take a step forward. Full Tilt Poker issued a statement last week that expressed its complete helplessness in the matter. Even before Black Friday happened the government had seized $115 million of player funds located in U.S. banks. A key payment processor had stolen $42 million. The statement also referred to “unprecedented issues with some of its third-party processors that greatly contributed to its financial problems.” And the swift and drastic action from the Department of Justice was never anticipated. Despite this, Full Tilt Poker has held discussions with several groups of outside investors, six of whom have visited Dublin to inspect the operations. One of these was backed by Phil Ivey who was a luminary at the online poker room when it was up and running. Nothing has materialized. Full Tilt Poker has now engaged an additional financial advisor through an investment banking group “to assist us in our search for an infusion of cash as well as a new management team to restore the site and repay players.”

From the way the PokerStars has been able to stabilize its operations and Full Tilt Poker has not, there are rumors of things not being in shape at Full Tilt Poker even before Black Friday. A payment processor, Bradley Franzen, has informed the U.S. government that Full Tilt Poker was dealing with a $60 million shortfall earlier in 2011 and this could be just the proverbial tip of the iceberg.


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